asciilifeform: http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2014/operator-of-silk-road-2.0-website-charged-in-manhattan-federal-court << preeet!
assbot: Operator of Silk Road 2.0, Blake Benthall, arrested yesterday by FBI agents in San Francisco, CA
z33andO_o: I do not see this mentioned here, honeypot Silk Road 2 finally taken down by the FBI. No effect on dark net markets since it's market share was dvindling but it does mean the US government has managed to steal more BTC
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> primitives succeeded in making steels of a kind, from naturally carboniferous wootz traded along, e.g., silk road << Wootz yes, low hanging fruit. When I read Damascus though I think laminate forging process
asciilifeform: primitives succeeded in making steels of a kind, from naturally carboniferous wootz traded along, e.g., silk road
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/10/australian-silk-road-merchant-sentenced-to-11-years-jail-loses-24500-bitcoin-to-boot/
assbot: Australian Silk Road Merchant Sentenced To 11 Years Jail, Loses 24,500 Bitcoin To Boot | Qntra.net
cazalla: mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: cazalla: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/silk-road-murder-charges-ross-ulbricht/ <<<< cazalla this totally needs all the research you can throw at it. what the fuck is the story there, they got raped on the "undercover" work ? how ? why ? major point loss for the omni-impotent usg. <<< please to be sending tech/law leads to BingoBoingo
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: cazalla: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/silk-road-murder-charges-ross-ulbricht/ <<<< cazalla this totally needs all the research you can throw at it. what the fuck is the story there, they got raped on the "undercover" work ? how ? why ? major point loss for the omni-impotent usg.
cazalla: my guess is given bikie and meth links, it was how they cashed out their coins from silk road sales
mircea_popescu: cazalla: anyone ever heard of people buying fkn rattlesnakes from silk road type sites before? << yes, actually, i knew a derp raising pot and poisonous reptiles in romania. fortunately he had no idea what the web is, but otherwise, exactly what lanky ragaddy hair hippy you'd expect for the role.
mike_c: "Silk Road’s reliance on PHP databases was readily observable from the website itself during the time of its operation"
mircea_popescu: but really, this silkroad thing is becoming a major liability for the usg, after having actually crossed the line from gain to liability sometime in spring.
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
BingoBoingo: Un-pdf turded version here: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-government-files-response-to-horowitz-declaration/
penguirker: New blog post: http://qntra.net/2014/10/silk-road-lawyers-challenge-justice-department-leaky-captcha-theory/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 months 1 week ago
Shakespeare: though coindesk is SEOing http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c4105
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-usg-wasted-another-hundred-million-dollars-it-previously-stole-from-average-hard-working-us-citizens-nobody-cares/ << silkroad bet resolved and other considerations
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: SPz somehow the FBI manages to store me for a decade because I have no silk road info and at the same time keep my priv keys safe? The chance at being a possum instead of a rat?
ziggla: 500 btc is different than like 7 btc. the silk road bet isn't for much. don't think tim draper or the usms is scamming newbs on bitbet here
ThickAsThieves: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/09/08/leaky_captcha_behind_fbis_silk_road_rapture/
BingoBoingo: http://www.wired.com/2014/09/the-fbi-finally-says-how-it-legally-pinpointed-silk-roads-server/
assbot: Lawyer: Charleston man denies connection to DEA Bitcoin seizure and illicit Silk Road drug marketplace - Post and Courier
BingoBoingo: http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130709/PC16/130709464/1177/lawyer-charleston-man-denies-connection-to-dea-bitcoin-seizure-and-illicit-silk-road-drug-marketplace
BingoBoingo: bats_cd03> an early silk road entrepreneur living it up on southern california after exchanging btc for fiat; authorities spy, notice new camaro but no regular employment since 2010... questioned, gasenwagen, perhaps USG confiscates some coins along the way. everything is gravy, republic lives another day. << And I bless Jebus I am but a midwestern pauper
bats_cd03: an early silk road entrepreneur living it up on southern california after exchanging btc for fiat; authorities spy, notice new camaro but no regular employment since 2010... questioned, gasenwagen, perhaps USG confiscates some coins along the way. everything is gravy, republic lives another day.
mircea_popescu: after the silk road thing, govt clerks everywhere are stuck following up. everything.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road << it's not racial profiling if you're white :D
BingoBoingo: The shitty thing about the ordeal on them asking about the goddamned Silk Road I didn't use was their knocking woke me up from my day-slumber
BingoBoingo: The seemed so fucking incredulous that I with my unkempt hair and beard, could have somehow not used the silk road
BingoBoingo: Nah, Just let them in on all of my nothing I knew about a connection they suspected between DBordello's BTCPack and The Silk Road
TheNewDeal: they draw a map of transactions in it, and you can see a bunch of silk road addresses off on the side
StephanLivera: usagi, but they even sold the silk road bitcoins. If they find illicit drugs, they don't sell those - they destroy them. So that in itself shows some treatment of legitimacy
fluffypony: http://www.wired.com/2014/08/feds-silk-road-investigation-violated-privacy-law-sites-alleged-creator-tells-court/
assbot: Feds’ Silk Road Investigation Broke Privacy Laws, Defendant Tells Court | Threat Level | WIRED
mircea_popescu: " In June, U.S. Marshals auctioned off Bitcoins seized from Silk Road, the online market for illegal goods and services. Draper bought the lot for $20 million, beating out 44 other bidders."
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3560 now you';ve done it.
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 4 weeks 55 minutes ago
mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/ << page wordcount ? 8553. total bet ? 7.440
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 4 days ago
pankkake: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/#c3498 lol I love the anonymous comments of BitBet
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 weeks 8 hours ago
mrX_: I wonder if BitBet has anything to say about how they are refusing to resolve this bet http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 days ago
mircea_popescu: if there were no pirate and no silkroad whatshisname, the usg wouldn't be tempted today by the very dangerous heresy that "maybe it can make it on its own"
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 2 weeks 6 minutes ago
ThickAsThieves: http://www.coindesk.com/us-marshals-one-auction-bidder-claimed-all-30000-silk-road-bitcoins/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 4 days 21 hours ago
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 13 hours ago
ThickAsThieves: question, what if we don't find out what the coins were purchased for at auction today, and we have to wait for a FOIA request or such? (re: http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/)
pankkake: ;;later tell oleganza next time bet instead of twit http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 3 days 10 hours ago
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closed 1 day 1 hour ago
mike_c: hmph. weight fail. http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 2.15 B (29%) on Yes, 5.3 B (71%) on No | closing in 5 hours 39 seconds | weight: 2`345 (100`000 to 1)
TheNewDeal: I'm getting really excited for this silk road auction. Can't wait to see how it goes down
[]bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.19821016 BTC. Current weight: 38,070.
mircea_popescu: think of it, this is a space where fucktarded "community members" aptly represented by the "bitcoin foundation" and well catered for by the power rangers a) gave half a million btc to trendon shavers and then b) gave half a million btc to silk road
mircea_popescu: los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ? << they claim they do.
chetty: http://www.coindesk.com/list-possible-silk-road-bitcoin-bidders-allegedly-leaked-us-marshals/
los_pantalones: does anyone know if the us govt has control the private keys on the silk road wallets ?
assbot: BitBet - Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza :: 1.39 B (58%) on Yes, 0.99 B (42%) on No | closing in 1 week 1 day| weight: 92`453 (100`000 to 1)
davout: how does this guy get resolved if the auction is kept private? --> http://bitbet.us/bet/951/silk-road-coin-auction-extravaganza/
ThickAsThieves: https://www.fairlay.com/predict/registered/new/from-silk-road-seized-bitcoins-will-be-sold-for-600-each/
TomServo: It should be noted that the FBI has a lot of bitcoins to sell. In addition to drug-tainted Silk Road coins, the FBI has a much bigger stash: an estimate from Casey Research puts the figure between 5% and 10% of all bitcoins in circulation.
asciilifeform: chetty: related? http://www.coindesk.com/vc-firm-bid-fbi-silk-road-bitcoins
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bitcoinpete: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-06/03/silk-road-study << this is precisely why they wanted that "murder solicitation" thing in there so bad. and... they got it. because, bitcoin jesuses.
Naphex: http://www.wired.com/2014/06/silk-road-study/ - the more interesting news today
princessnell: also, re silk road, i love it when i beat <3science<3 by a few months: http://theumlaut.com/2013/08/13/silk-road-as-a-self-regulating-black-market/
PLambert: did you see the article about the guy who accidently got shipped a drone by US gov? he should have sold it on silkroad :)
Dimsler: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140501/18550127094/silk-road-20-now-larger-than-silk-road-ever-was.shtml
punkman: kakobrekla: http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/1017866/darkmarket-the-silk-road-successor-police-cant-shut-down/
ozbot: Inside the ‘DarkMarket’ Prototype, a Silk Road the FBI Can Never Seize | Threat Level | WIRED
mircea_popescu: conversely, misplaced shards of personhood ruin anonimity. such as w/e, silk road guy.
Namworld: And own silkroad.com, which is HR related, which must be their first business, hence the name: http://www.silkroad.com/
Namworld: "This PR team apparently sees nothing wrong with this Sponsor’s association with Silk Road Equity LLC (I am not shitting you)."
bounce: this needs a better translator: http://www.goxdox.org/2014/04/mtgox-to-be-acquired-by-silk-road_12.html
ozbot: Alleged Silk Road Creator's Lawyer Denies Bitcoin Is 'Monetary Instrument,' Moves To Drop All Charge
mircea_popescu: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/04/01/alleged-silk-road-creators-lawyer-denies-bitcoin-is-monetary-instrument-moves-to-drop-all-charges/
mircea_popescu: "Charlie Shrem, known for his alleged involvement in the Silk Road scandal, is in talks with US prosecutors for a plea bargain."
gribble: What the drug trade is, how the drug trade works and why ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/2013/what-the-drug-trade-is-how-the-drug-trade-works-and-why-silk-road-didnt-work-and-didnt-matter/>; Forbes, now with a little extra ESL and a whole lot of extra ... - Trilema: <http://trilema.com/forbes-now-with-a-little-extra-esl-and-a-whole-lot-of-extra-stupid>; Law enforcement never fails to (1 more message)
ninjashogun: ThickAsThieves what about silk road and questionably legal things? Didn't people buy btc specificially for those uses?
asciilifeform: 'Industry is the only true source of wealth, and there was no industry in Rome. By day the Ostia road was crowded with carts and muleteers, carrying to the great city the silks and spices of the East, the marble of Asia Minor, the timber of the Atlas, the grain of Africa and Egypt; and the carts brought nothing out but loads of dung. That was their return cargo. London turns dirt into gold. Rome turned gold int
dexX7_: http://www.businessinsider.com/senator-calls-for-bitcoin-ban-2014-2 ... there was one surprising part: "I have already written to regulators once on the now-closed Silkroad ... That is why more than a handful of countries, and their banking systems, have cautioned against the use of Bitcoin." - if this is true, he seems to have some influence?
BingoBoingo: It is still new ages, but this week a lot of people who though they were "in" Bitcoin realized they never stopped being n00bs in spite of having been around for the great silk road bubble of 2011
the20year: there was some java/ad exploit that took alot of coins from people running XP, and I was one of them, right around the time bitcoin hit like $20 for the first time due to all the silk road press, maybe that was 2011?
mircea_popescu: people thought silk road is fundamental to bitcoin value. it closed, no ill effects recorded.
herbijudlestoids: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1xu4he/it_is_clear_that_silk_road_2_funds_were_stolen_by/
herbijudlestoids: http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/13/silk-road-2-hacked-88000-bitcoin-allegedly-stolen/
mike_c: mircea_popescu: the "vendor expoliting tx malleability until our wallet was empty" was the silk road excuse, not the mtgox excuse i believe
bloctoc: I wonder how long it will take for the phrase "Silk Road" to replace the word "Al Quaida" as American Press' most feared thingy.
davout: http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/02/13/silk-road-2-hacked-bitcoins-stolen-unknown-amount/ <<<< so much win
BingoBoingo: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/02/12/2157234/utopia-silk-roads-latest-replacement-only-lasted-nine-days
nubbins`: "By the time Silk Road shut down, The Avengers had reviewed 60 vendors, rating them on factors like packaging quality, shipping time, and price."
nubbins`: the other point about silk road is that there were this group of guys called "the avengers" who would buy LSD from new vendors and get it tested in a lab for strength
ThickAsThieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/02/07/alleged-silk-road-creator-ross-ulbricht-pleads-not-guilty-on-all-charges/
mircea_popescu: herbijudlestoids everything to do with silk road, dude. it's these kids who don't have to work, can't learn as there's no schools, having nothing to do with their time
herbijudlestoids: "bath salts" aka mephedrone or 4-MAR or MDPV or similar substances under the same common name has little do with silk road and hugely to do with the proliferation of chinese generic manufacturers keeping their factories open for an extra hour each night
mircea_popescu: mind that this entire discussion started from "why would idiot 12yos snort bath salts" and is not unrelated to the "massive popularity" of silk road
chipug: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/dread-pirate-roberts-2-0-an-interview-with-silk-roads-new-boss/
BingoBoingo: Oh looky, who called this out in the Silk Road aftermath https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/feb/03/dea-parallel-construction-guides/
Apocalyptic: <herbijudlestoids> i still really cant believe the security behind silk road was so fucken poor // then you won't believe this
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: i did, after reading about how silk road went down they wer eall so fucking stupid
mircea_popescu: I am the owner of RoadSilk and I would like to ask if its possible to change the status of our website on the marketplace list.
Duffer1: wonder whatever happened to that kid that came in here trying to start his own silk road at his college
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1pko9y/the_bet_bmr_and_sheep_to_die_in_a_year/
mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1pko9y/the_bet_bmr_and_sheep_to_die_in_a_year/
mjr_: why would you sell bitcoins to a guy who is selling bitcoins ON SILK ROAD, when you know he's on silk road, and you are doing way larger amounts than you say you can on your website
pankkake: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/01/16/the-feds-are-ready-to-sell-the-silk-road-bitcoin-kind-of/ maybe?
mircea_popescu: for instance, the silkroad kid they caught by discovering that he came here going "hey guise, how would someone make like a bitcoin tor craigslist"
asciilifeform: cellphone miner? i can only conclude that 'silk road' is back, and btc people are partaking of strong drug.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: To be fair before you showed it was pretty much just the dev circle jerk and the Silk Road honey pot
kleeck: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/feds-say-silk-road-suspects-computer-shows-he-thought-he-plotted-6-murders/
BingoBoingo: So Black Market Reloaded just went reverse Silk Road. Users and dealers identified http://gawker.com/popular-dark-net-drug-market-users-outed-by-journalist-1466790324
mircea_popescu: this is the entire silkroad nonsense all over again. nobody cares you have 1mn little dribblets of sugar all over your kitchen floor.
asciilifeform: (where people load up cards and sell the complete stripe data on a 'silk road' of sorts)
dexX7: oh look, the dead ones are speaking: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/11/target-of-silk-road-murder-for-hire-plot-tells-his-story/
asciilifeform: from the honeypot dept: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/
mike_c: can you say honeypot? http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/11/06/silk-road-2-0-launches-promising-a-resurrected-black-market-for-the-dark-web/
kleeck: When my friends are trolling me they call Bitcoin "CrimeCoin" and it's usually after something like the Trendon Shavers arrest, or Silkroad bust.
Namworld: Here's an interesting spam transaction on Silkroad's seized coins address: https://blockchain.info/tx/0e8a3dfd2f734233dd8fceb82a1c0c3a3af0373101dc8f13cf13fb5ff7786f63
dexX7: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/
dexX7: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/25/fbi-says-its-seized-20-million-in-bitcoins-from-ross-ulbricht-alleged-owner-of-silk-road/
ozbot: FBI Says It's Seized $28.5 Million In Bitcoins From Ross Ulbricht, Alleged Owner Of Silk Road - Forb
BingoBoingo: I'll just throw out it feels more like January 2013 than silk Road July (and to most people that should mean nothing, don't you cultivate your own personalized WOT's).
jurov: http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/
dexX7: https://blockchain.info/address/1FngtAcZsLfK89MNe7TqzyqVtSype8TiVD uh oh silkroad coins on the move